“I was expecting a very hostile environment…What turned out was a very thoughtful open introspective discussion,” reflected Kelly Johnston on his first interaction with Convergence Founder Rob Fersh.

Listen as political opposites and longtime friends Rob Fersh and Kelly Johnston discuss bridge-building and why this work is so urgently needed in an era of political gridlock.

This podcast was co-produced in partnership with Convergence Center for Policy Resolution and is one of a series of podcasts that Common Ground Committee and Convergence are producing together.